The Mystic Otto Rapp: MANILA ART

ENDANGERED VISIONS

below is a copy of the tread on the closed Facebook group ENDANGERED VISIONS - member artists of this group may access (and comment on) this post directly HERE

UPDATE:

so what yo see below does not exist anymore on Facebook
Here is a link to a new pinned tread
https://www.facebook.com/groups/818129408205813/permalink/971598199525599/

lets see how long it stays up!

Gromyko Semper

ATTN ARTISTS:

FOR ARTISTS WHO ARE WAITING FOR THEIR WORKS TO BE RETURNED: We are still currently waiting for the tracking number that Jon Gotiong promised everyone. Please bear with us that we are doing the best we can to hasten the process. Be assured that all your works will be returned. the Delays that was caused on the Part of Jon is really degrading on our part(Me and Amy). We apologize for whatever trouble this has caused everyone.

ForTHOSE WHO HAVE AN ISSUE ABOUT THEIR PAYMENTS: Jon handled all the dealings of your artworks, whatever payments,discounts,follow ups, that was made it was on him. He has left me wondering alone also regarding the second phase of the show as well as the negotiations he had made. Whatever troubles he has cause, my apologies as well.

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Gromyko Semper Amy Wong Loste and I are on his tail following up what he promised to all.

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Gromyko Semper Bette Burgoyne Louis Markoya Jakub Kruso Kirsten Stingle Hayama Teiji Susannah Martin Joe MacGown

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Bette Burgoyne Carol Prusa, Otto Rapp, Bruce Rimell

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Amy Wong Loste Artist friends who were able to come to the fair, I hope you were able to see how Jon Gotiong managed/manned/ran the exhibit. As explained in a separate thread, even though we assisted with logistics, we were unfortunately unaware of arrangements/commitments made to the individual artist. As such, it is still Jon who can address all your concerns/complaints as regards management/pricing decisions.

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Jon Kenneth Gotiong I would like to clarify Amy Wong Loste that all prices and negotiations were with concurrence with Gromyko Semper. All the adjustments and final sale price was finalized by him. I have the chat threads to prove to all of you, but I will not post it for this talk to end.

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Jon Kenneth Gotiong Re the final shipment, I just received the artworks 2 weeks ago and we are waiting for the final rates from the shipper/forwarder/ We have gone ahead with the processing of the Export Declaration and other papers for customs. We are waiting for the others to reply and email me the final address on where the items to be sent. Our target is this Saturday to ship out.

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Jon Kenneth Gotiong Again sorry as I had some personal problems to thresh out so I was not able to respond to emails and text

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Jon Kenneth Gotiong Please email me your final address Louis Markoya,Jakub Kruso, Kristen Kirsten Stingle, Hayama Teiji, Otto Rapp, Carol Prusa,Bruce Rimell and Carrie Ann Baade

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Jon Kenneth Gotiong My email add is jon.gotiong@gmail.com thank you

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More Updates - copied from the Facebook group:

Gromyko Semper

March 12 at 3:44pm

Re-edit: artists whose works are expected to be returned. We are just settling things with jon gotiong re:errors in shipping. But rest assured we will make sure your works will be returned.thank you and sorrh for all e troules of delays.

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Kirsten Stingle Gromyko, thank you and Amy for your efforts. As you know, through this whole ordeal I have had a fairly positive attitude but this has reached the point where it reflects badly on everyone involved. At first a part of my piece thrown away before the s...See More

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Otto Rapp why was the original post about this removed? Based on posted messages in that tread, I had sent all my info to Jon Kenneth Gotiong on March 6th - I retrieved my original contract and found that all the required info for return shipping was on it already.
Gromyko Semper: I am neither resting, nor am I assured, sorry to say.

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Otto Rapp Bette Burgoyne - so we don't forget what went on before then (keeping an eye on proceedings - deleting stuff does not work when someone takes screenshots and posts them on the internet!)http://artofthemystic.blogspot.co.at/.../manila-art...
as the saying goes: "we don't fuck around here"

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Bette Burgoyne It's all disheartening.

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... the Story continues:

Joe MacGown

March 24 at 3:37am · Artesia, MS, United States

Any word on when works will be returned? Still waiting on mine. Thanks.

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Gromyko Semper hi joe...still waiting for john's response...curently there has been an error,again,unfortunately on the return of all the works, but we have faith,with Amy's help that we shall have the works returned soon..

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Amy Wong Loste Hi everyone, as of this morning, I received an update from Jon Go Tiong (which I will verify shortly with the forwarder) that of the two batches missent, the one from Singapore has been retrieved and is on its way back to Manila. We're waiting for news of the shipment sent to Danny Malboeuf in the US. Danny has graciously agreed to notify us as soon as he's been informed of/received it and will assist us in reverting back the shipment. From Manila, the individual pieces will be resent back to you for their final and proper destinations. All this is now being directly handled by ECX Forwarders (where most of you shipped your works orginally), which was contracted by Jon for all shipping matters. They are also taking care of the costs of transport as they were responsible for the error to begin with. Thanks once again for your patience. We will relay the updates as we receive them.

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Gromyko Semper

March 25 at 6:44am

e individual pieces will be resent back to you for their final and proper destinations. All this is now being directly handled by ECX Forwarders (where most of you shipped your works orginally), which was contracted by Jon for all shipping matters. They are also taking care of the costs of transport as they were responsible for the error to begin with. Thanks once again for your patience. We will relay the updates as we receive them.

3 comments:

Bernard Dumaine said...: This is weird; March 25, 2015 at 11:16 AM
ART OF THE MYSTIC OTTO RAPP said...: This should be proof positive that BLACK HOLES do exist!; March 28, 2015 at 4:08 AM
ART OF THE MYSTIC OTTO RAPP said...: From all accounts it appears now that works had been returned. I had received mine, though I needed to go to customs and explain that it was a return of my own work (and to the originating country, Austria), otherwise I would have been charged VAT. While time consuming, it was relatively easy (after waiting for a customs officer for over one hour, plus the trip to the outskirts of the city where the office was located) and done in less than one minute, once it was my turn.
I am glad that this ordeal is now over, but it strengthened my resolve to avoid participating in exhibitions outside my area, that is Schengen (EU).; October 1, 2015 at 3:00 AM